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Quaid-e-Azam – Mohammad Ali Jinnah’s Great Grandson

July 1, 2009

Last week the news about Jinnah’s maternal great grandson Aslam Jinnah surfaced as to how miserable and poor life his family were living while being the great grandson of Jinnah he should have some recognition. I was wondering Jinnah had only one daughter Dina Wadia (nèe Jinnah).

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Jinnah & Dina

Dina got married to a Parsi born Indian Neville Wadia against the wishes of her father. Wikipedia states:

Mahommedali Currim Chagla, who was Jinnah’s assistant at the time, recalls:

“Jinnah, in his usual imperious manner, told her that there were millions of Muslim boys in India, and she could have anyone she chose. Reminding her father that his wife (Dina’s mother Rattanbai), had also been a non-Muslim, the young lady replied: ‘Father, there were millions of Muslim girls in India. Why did you not marry one of them?’ And he replied that, ‘she became a Muslim’”.

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Neville

Dina and Neville lived in Mumbai and had a son and a daughter. Dina’s son Nusli Wadia is an industrialist and business tycoon.  His sons – Dina’s grandsons and Jinnah’s great grandsons are Ness Wadia and Jeh (a.k.a Jehangir) Wadia.

About Jinnah’s rest of extended family:

The only grandson of Quaid-i-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah is Nusli Wadia, Chief Executive Bombay Dying & Manufacturing Company and lives in Bombay. There is no other grandson of Quaid-i-Azam. The only great grandsons are sons of Nusli Wadia who also live in Bombay. Jinnah’s daughter Dina Wadia lives in New York and Bombay.

This was stated by Liaquat Merchant, grandnephew of Quaid-i-Azam and grandson of Jinnah’s sister Mariambai in a clarification following media coverage which projected Aslam Jinnah as grandson or great grandson of Quaid-i-Azam and invitation extended to him by executives of Baitul Maal in Islamabad.

He said he had in past clarified his position on several occasions during period 2004 to 2007. He said it was incorrect to describe anyone except Nusli Wadia as Jinnah’s grandson.

Merchant, who is Administrator Estate of Quaid-i-Azam, Managing Trustee Jinnah Foundation, Executive Trustee Quaid-i-Azam Aligarh Education Trust, President Jinnah Society, author of publications on Jinnah and recipient of Sitara-e-Imtiaz awarded by President of Pakistan in recognition of his publications on Jinnah, public services in health, education, said he had never met Aslam but thought he was probably a descendent from Nathoo Poonja family.

He said Quaid-i-Azam’s father Jinnah Poonja had two brothers — Walji Poonja and Nathoo Poonja. While grandsons of Walji Poonja had come forward and made claim for a share in Estate of Mohtarma Fatima Jinnah in accordance with Hanafi/Sunni law in their capacity as distant kindred claiming through Jinnah’s paternal uncle Walji Poonja, there was no claim by any male descendent of Nathoo Poonja but a claim filed by one Jenabai, a daughter-in-law of one of grandsons of Nathoo Poonja but her application was dismissed as it did not merit consideration. No other claim has been filed up to date by any member of Nathoo Poonja family.

He said if Aslam is a descendent of Nathoo Poonja, he should establish his ancestry and make a claim before the Sindh High Court for a share. He said he only wished for record to be set straight and had no grievance or reservation against any member of Nathoo Poonja family.

Liaquat Merchant said descendents of Walji Poonja who were settled in Karachi included Muhammad Ali, Jaffer Ali, Hussein Ali and Ghulam Ali who are now survived by Amir Ali son of Hussainali Gangji Walji.

The immediate family of Quaid-i-Azam comprised of his daughter Mrs Dina Wadia and her son Nusli Wadia. Quaid’s sisters are Rehmatbai, Mariambai, Shirinbai and Fatima Jinnah. His brother Bande Ali died and his brother Ahmad who was married to a Sunni lady had one daughter Fatima Goepfert.

Merchant said children of Quaid’s sisters Rehmatbai, Mariambai and Shirinbai are no more alive. Daughter of Ahmed Jinnah lived in Switzerland while Fatima Jinnah did not marry.

Grandchildren of Quaid’s sister Mariambai, presently living in Karachi, are Kulsoom Ibrahim, Zehra Chandoo, Gulshan Chandoo, Rohina Peerbhoy, Liaquat Merchant, Hussein Ebrahim and Moonira Kassam. Other grandchildren of Jinnah’s sisters Rehmatbai and Mariambai live in Bombay and Calcutta.

Quaid’s grand nephew issues clarification

Even if Aslam Jinnah is a relative of Quaid then the media shouldn’t call him his maternal great grandson. He might be a distant relative or he may not be related to him at all.

The history we read at schools never talk about such things. It is the responsibility of media and the historians to set the record straight.

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Nusli Wadia

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143 Comments leave one →
  1. Ayesha permalink
    July 1, 2009 12:58 pm

    Assalamoalaikum,

    What an interesting post!

    I am baffled by something though. Jinnah’s dad’s name was not muslim, neither was his daughters nor is she dressing as a muslim in the picture, nor does she look like one.

    Jinnah also looks like a normal forgien person. Only fatimah and his names were muslim, how come? Just a thought.

    May Allh give him peace in the grave for his efforts,a meen.

    • Ayesha permalink
      July 1, 2009 3:49 pm

      By birth Jinnah was Shia Khoja and his family belonged to (Indian) Gujarat. I think in those times people while selecting names for their offspring were more influenced by the culture and their native language. The article above says his sisters’ names were Rehmatbai, Mariambai and Shirinbai etc. If you notice even the sur name ‘Jinnah’ is very unusual and unique. Some people suggest it’s an Arabic word (mentioned in the Quran) which means an ‘arm’. But we can’t say that for sure.

      Quaid’s wife was Rattanbai who was Parsi but had converted to Islam.

      As for Dina… I have no idea what’s the origin and meaning of this name but do remember Quaid was very secular in his lifestyle. Some historian and his biographers mentioned that he used to drink and eat pork. Which might be true. But what makes him wonderful is that he was a man of principles.

      Here is a quote from another article:

      Jinnah raised his daughter as a Muslim, according to Jinnah’s chauffeur Bradbury, Jinnah asked his sister, Fatima, “to teach her niece, Dina (Jinnah’s only daughter) about Islam and The Holy Qur’an.”

    • Kashif permalink
      September 1, 2012 7:18 am

      Please tell me the exact religion of our Great Leader.

  2. Tauqeer permalink
    July 2, 2009 7:27 am

    Nice post.

  3. July 2, 2009 4:01 pm

    wow.
    what a post!

    i did a thorough research once but that was a long time ago!
    this refreshes a lot!

    • Ayesha permalink
      July 2, 2009 7:30 pm

      Thanks for reading it :)

  4. July 3, 2009 6:11 am

    Quite informative!

    Thank you for this post :-)

    • Ayesha permalink
      July 3, 2009 5:26 pm

      My pleasure! :)

  5. James permalink
    July 7, 2009 4:23 pm

    I don’t think Mr Jinnah had anything to do with Islam. His religion was his own wishes and what was he told to do. He wanted to be on the top, and he got it in shape of Pakistan’s governor general. He had no opportunity of that level whatsoever in united India.

    He was as muslim as Mr Asif Ali Zardari, Zukfiqar Ali Bhutto, General Ashfaque Pervez Kiyani or any other figure of authority in Pakistan past and present.

    So no worries about Jinnah, his family or anyone else of their stature in Paki Land. Everyone is grabber (of wealth, fame and power plus some sex) here.

    • angel permalink
      October 20, 2009 5:37 pm

      if he had nothing to do with Islam then why did he fight for muslims?????

    • October 22, 2009 1:58 pm

      Angel: That’s politics for you! :D

      If you’ve read history then you must have read that Jinnah was in Congress Party first as he thought it to be the true secular party. Then he joined Muslim League. Left it soon due to Muslim’s strange behavior. Joined again on the request of Dr. Iqbal and then there was no looking back.

      It was simple Jinnah had made it his aim to create a separate homeland for Muslims and he did. Okay we were destined to have our own land. So it happened. Let’s see things with simple lens :D

    • September 11, 2011 7:32 am

      James, I concur. Well, it would be a long argument whether he was a pure secular or maintained a ‘centrist’ approach instead but whatever, I believe he ‘earned’/deserve to Gov Gen. ;)

    • September 17, 2011 12:25 pm

      What is UK like james is it full of talkative advisers and court houses and over languaged educaters or storytellers waiting for fairy tales to be told about everyone don’t you know your own desire wealth etc our happiness of pakistan is our enjoyment.whether it’s disasters or enjoying parties independeces of non nations of our own. you enjoy your UK and advise us all what is correct or not correct yours a friend.

    • Karim Johar permalink
      June 26, 2012 3:57 am

      Excellent Comment

    • Raja permalink
      October 7, 2012 8:37 pm

      Dear Angel This one is for you!
      To whom did he fight?
      To his masters? who gave him education with stipend? He went Britain as an apprentice, do you know what it means? He was paid while getting education.
      He was a Isma’eeli Shia.
      His wife was Parsi, on objection of members of MUSLIM League they named her Mariam and announced her as a muslim. But later at the time of separation he applied for Indian National and described that the announcement of being Muslim was only for a political situation but originally she is still a Non Muslim Parsi……..
      He was implanted by British and to make a platform where they can harm unity of Indians and separate them in the name of religion. Before Jinnah Muslims and Hindus where fighting for Freedom together and there are big names of Muslims who were members of Indian Congress.
      Real Things are always hidden from us because we can see, read and listen only what British and their agents wanted us to.
      If some one reveals the reality he is labeled as a Traitor, therefore you could not get even close to the real happenings. Now a days these facilities through IT are giving a chance to express views.
      The family of M. A. Jinnahbhai is very much successful and secure in India as we were having trouble living there according to 14 Points of Mr. M. A. Jinnahbhai so he made this country for us.
      The last sentence just above this line tells the whole story…………….

    • shahzada khurram permalink
      October 21, 2012 12:10 pm

      off course you are jealous with his dynamic personality you can never make sense for A great father of Islamic nation Islamic Republic of Pakistan

    • maria permalink
      February 19, 2013 10:00 am

      excuse me

  6. Moorwen permalink
    July 7, 2009 5:59 pm

    Why do we believe ‘some’ non-Muslim authors who call our Quaid a drunk person. Hundreds more books written by Muslim authors describe him as a Muslim with fine enough faith. Why don’t we believe them? Are you following Islam by doing this?

    About Dina, her daughter, Qauid-e-Azam let her go out of his life when Dina decided marrying a Non-Muslim & didn’t follow the religion. Dina was brought up by her Parsian grand-parents who filled her brain against Islam and Jinnah. If she was Quaid’s obedient daughter, hadn’t she come to Pakistan in 1947 (Just like Fatima Jinnah did)?
    Wikipedia says {Jinnah continued to correspond cordially with his daughter, but their personal relationship was strained.}

    Would any of you, please, tell me what will be your reaction if I call your deceased grand-pa a drunk, a non-Muslim, a fame wisher, sex-holic? Quaid-e-Azam is our grandpa, our hero. Alas! we the ungrateful people never thank.

    And did any of you live with him? Do you know what he did? What he thought? It’s a matter between him and Allah. Why can’t you just stick to your own faith & religion and stop bothering the deceased one?

    Why can’t we think positive?

    Would you please like to imagine, what would have been your condition, if Jinnah didn’t gift you with Pakistan? I wouldn’t say anything but Orya Maqbool Jaan explains. Even though whole script is worth reading but the true picture of condition of Muslims in India has been captured in last paragraph.

    http://www.pkcolumns.com/2008/12/18/lohey-
    ke-cheney-by-orya-maqbool-jan/

    I didn’t want to comment here, I knew I would go unpleasant but writing “Zardari” blah blah along with My Quaid’s name is just intolerable. I apologize for inconvenience.

    • Ayesha permalink
      July 8, 2009 5:28 pm

      We understand your sentiments! :)

    • salman khan permalink
      October 24, 2009 2:43 pm

      ryt,agree with u.

    • Malik permalink
      May 10, 2010 7:25 pm

      gr8…i really appreciate u…no one can take our gr8 Quaid’s place.

    • December 6, 2011 12:37 pm

      As far as as i have read, i am sure Mr.Jinnah would never ever have eaten pork or drink…
      And if you have read that please do give me the link.

      And also when you call Mr.Jinnah Man Of Principle how could he break the main Principles of God..

      Another thing..
      You can easily get the idea of Mr.Jinnah’s life style by this paragraph which you have written on the top…

      Mahommedali Currim Chagla, who was Jinnah’s assistant at the time, recalls:

      “Jinnah, in his usual imperious manner, told her that there were millions of Muslim boys in India, and she could have anyone she chose. Reminding her father that his wife (Dina’s mother Rattanbai), had also been a non-Muslim, the young lady replied: ‘Father, there were millions of Muslim girls in India. Why did you not marry one of them?’ And he replied that, ‘she became a Muslim’”.

      And yea…
      its not just mY sentiments..
      its fact as well… ;)

      a goOd Muslim lives and let others live… :)

    • abeeha permalink
      July 10, 2012 3:45 am

      i agree with u .no one loser have right to say such things about our great Quaid.I cant believe their statements,views,ideas they are just worthless,hypocrite.

    • Ronuq Shah permalink
      July 22, 2012 11:43 am

      The present condition of Pakistan reflects 65 years old BLUNDERS done by Gora
      Agents Jinnah,Liaquat etc.Qatil Azam has more respect in Ghadaristan than any
      Of the Prophets as you go in any Govt Office Qatil Azam has a DRACULA PICTURE
      On the currency Qatil Azam is there. He is responsible for murder of 3-4 Million innocent
      People including Sikhs Muslims and hindus in 1947, I also blame Nehru sardar Patel
      And Gandhi for this savage event of the history , SINCE 1947 muslims in India are suffering And Paky muslims are INTERNATIONAL Bhikaris and Beggars for foreign Aid collected by
      Munafiq rulers like Gen Zia, Busharraf, Zardari and poor people in Pakistan in Food no electricity No medicine no water ????So creation of Pakistan created far more problems
      Than any other event in the history of the world

    • Raja permalink
      October 7, 2012 8:51 pm

      This comment is not to hurt anybody’s feeling I apologize in advance. But this is true.
      Further I want to say what happened was a story of Past it has no concern with my love to my motherland Pakistan but I shall always point out the people who did wrong with us, I believe in Pakistan may be it was required also to be separated from India but it was a bad deal and FIGHT means go against wrong decisions but not accepting them so easily if some one do, he is not fair to his Party, Nation and Country. The results are before us as our PAKISTAN is at present.
      Mr. M. A. Jinnah was an Ismaeeli Shia who goes to Jamaat Khan, having no concern with Masjid and Azaan.
      Get information about Islmaeeli Shia and then get back to the topic.
      Mr. M. A. Jinnah went to Badshahi Masjid at entrance his accompanied told him to get his shoes off.

    • Bahaar permalink
      January 12, 2013 1:13 pm

      Well. There is enough debate on Jinah’s religion, which is still doubtful, because his lifestyle, views and principals are much different from Maulana Abulkalam Azad and others. As for as his achievements are concerned, they are also not worth appreciating because, it is said that he is responsible for dividing Muslims of India.

    • SYED HASNAIN SHAH permalink
      February 3, 2013 3:42 pm

      Ahmad Ali jinnah, Bandy Ali jinnah, Rahmat Ali jinnah, and their genration is where?? tell us about their life and biography.

  7. July 9, 2009 3:44 pm

    Very informative. Governments always want some brownie points to do such things =p

    • Ayesha permalink
      July 9, 2009 5:47 pm

      The government has really made a laughing-stock of itself.

  8. Mohammad Ali permalink
    July 9, 2009 8:29 pm

    Living like westerners does not one has become non-muslim. The whole thing of associating Islam with Arabian culture is ridiculous from start as we perceive today in Mullahs and Mosques while keeping the slogan of Islam today.

    It is not just coincidence that the people who created Pakistan were all educated in Western Institutes and had western influence. Take the example of Iqbal. Germany had a great influence on him. On the other hand, most of Mullah were strongly against the creation of Islam.

    In order to understand the true spirit of the creation of Pakistan it is mandatory to read Iqbals lectures in “Reconstruction of Religious Thoughts in Islam”.

    • Raja permalink
      October 7, 2012 9:04 pm

      MR. M. A. Jinnah was only named like Muslims because he belongs to a sect. which is called Ismaeeli Shia. They go to Jama’at Khana there where is no concept of Aazaan and Masjid.
      In my opinion he was chosen one to kill our rights.
      If I was there in position where Mr. M. A. Jinnah was I would not accept this separation which was caused major issues between two neighbor countries like Bangladesh and Kashmir. We could claim a bigger Pakistan and we would have been a double nation both in manpower and resources and specially we would have a chain of GOOD LEADERS instead of the chain ending presently at ZARD AARI.
      To prove 14 Points of Mr. M. A. Jinnah the bloodshed was done at the separation.

    • Raja permalink
      October 7, 2012 9:07 pm

      Mr. M. A. Jinnah was a solid reply from British to IQBAL’s “Reconstruction of Religious Thoughts in Islam”

  9. deborah permalink
    July 25, 2009 10:52 pm

    With respect, we should not judge Jinnah whether he was a drunk or a good muslim. That is for god and only god to do. We should not assume he was power hungry because of his behavior. Who knows what he was thinking. We should not judge a book by it’s cover. It is a known fact that he drank and smoked but this does not make him a bad muslim.

    It’s like Gandhi, we all knew he wanted an Independent India and he stood for non violence but we do not know what other egotistical inner satisfaction he felt (if there were any atall that is). These inner soul thoughts and feelings is only between man and god.

    So all we can do is pray for salvation for ourselves and let god be the judge of us all.

    Whether we are Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Jews etc. we are all god’s children. We should be careful with our opinions and interpretations.

  10. samina permalink
    August 18, 2009 4:36 pm

    salam
    m replyn for ayeshaz post for july 1st, ayesha plz u must read stenly walpert( i m nt sure m using the correct spellings :D). cz though mr JINNAH was secular in his life style bt he never drun never ate pork, n those who write this are definatly western writers, u must read above mentioned writerz book on JINNAH, this writer also has written on mr gandhi as well so u can easily analyse that he is nt baised n has written the truth. we must respect our grt leader.

  11. samina permalink
    August 18, 2009 5:08 pm

    well said moorwen, 1 thing i wana add is that there r sm western writers who take things rationally n will write only the truth, this writer stenly walpert, i read him in 200 or 2001 bt i wes really inspired that he dint write like other writers who always wrote against PAKISTAN, against RESPECTED mr JINNAH N AGAINST ISLAM.

  12. Karan permalink
    August 23, 2009 12:30 pm

    Mohammad Ali Jinnah, the Quaid-e-Azam of Pakistan is undoubtedly the most debated political personality in the south-east.

    His personality and lifestyle indicate a lot. Especially to Indians who have always ridiculed his policies as biased towards muslims.

    And I, as an Indian, feel that there is no doubt to his non-secularism post the 1940′s. What he may have done and said prior to that decade does matter little if we argue the aftermath.

    During those times of severe imperialism, he stood alongside greats like The Mahatma, Sardar and others carrying a singular aim of bringing freedom to India. That alone puts him in a position of true respect.

    What he may have undergone while being with the Muslim League, only he knows. There might have been deeper reasons for him to masquerade his secular self by demading an independent state, but again, his thoughts and actions gave rise to two nations instead of one.

    I just want for a second to imagine both the countries as one nation and think about how we as great grand children may have lived in unity.

    I believe, all the wars and the desperateness to seek kashmir from both ends would have dissapeared. I also believe that when the potentials of the Sardars and the Jinnahs and others would have summed, it would have given such an immense boost to the fertility of the combined land in terms of economics, politics, education and defence in contrast to what exists today

    If someone has an answer to one question that I want to ask, I will concede to defeat and bury my perceptions.

    “Why, if God exists in different forms(Allah, Ram…), did He not come and say…PLEASE STOP FIGHTING IN MY NAME!?

  13. August 31, 2009 5:49 pm

    People have been thanking you for your effort but I think thats what was your duty to do. But yes you did great.

    The moment I saw Ateeqa Odho’s video post [documentary on Jinnah's Grand Son] on Facebook asking whether its correct info or not… I was infuriating. And when I read the comments, it made me burning even more. How can be our media be so pathatic… filthy… and dirty… n then our people they believe every bullshit it says…
    I wanted to write so many things there, but thanks God I found link to your post here…

    Very well done job…

    I am sharing this link on my facebook too.

    Take care

  14. Hayyer permalink
    September 16, 2009 9:41 pm

    Jinnah is an abbreviated form of Jenabhai. M A Jinnah changed to Jinnah while he was in England. He was a Shia of the Ithna Ashari sect of Khoja Muslims. It is generally believed that Khojas are converts from the Hindu Lohana caste. The name of Jinnah’s father was Jenabhai Thakkar.
    Thakkar are found in the Punjab in India Hindu Lohanas of Gujrat have surnames such as Mehta or Madhwani.
    I quote this from Jaswant Singh’s book.

    • September 17, 2009 6:52 am

      Thanks for sharing the info. with us!

    • Kishore Dattani permalink
      May 10, 2012 5:41 pm

      Thakkar is more common surname in Gujarat than in Punjab. It is a Lohana surname. However, Lohana surnames are also tobe found in Punjab and Sindh. Lohana are recent addition to Gujarat circa 16th century. Mehta surname is a vanik/Jain surname in main. However, some Lohana families adopted the surname some 100 years ago due to their occupation. ( Mehta=Accountant.)

    • May 24, 2012 3:43 pm

      good.intresting

    • Suneer Thakkar permalink
      December 10, 2012 4:41 pm

      Thakkar caste in Punjab is included in Arora Khatris although Lohana-known as Lubana/Lohana in Punjab have the same ancestry. There is a distinction in Indian Punjab. In Pakistani Muslims Arora Khatris are known as Shaikh/ Khawaja.

  15. salman permalink
    September 19, 2009 4:09 pm

    Why now worried about his great-grandson’s economical conditions?

    when the protocols the great politician, mr. jinnah received hours before his death as the governor general of pakistan are a disgusting fact in the books of history…”ambulance running out of gas/oil”…oo well saudis never had oil in their deserts in those years.

    btw informative post ayesha :)

  16. September 19, 2009 7:05 pm

    very informative..thanks all for sharing your views.
    I am a kind of surprised that many of our young people dint know about the background of Mohammad Ali Jinnah (the father of the nation). I think this is purposely wiped off form our textbooks. But I dont think so we should hide the history. yes he belonged to a Shia family. This is correct he was secular in nature. This is also true that his daughter became parsi and settled in Bombay. But this is also immutable fact that he dedicated his life for the well being of the Muslims of India. He was the only person at that time who could stand against the britishers as the representative of the muslims.

  17. Tarun Dattani permalink
    October 28, 2009 12:34 pm

    The name Jinnah is not derived from Arabic.Mr M A Jinnah coverted his father’s name into his surname by dropping bhai from Jinnahbhai.Jinnah’s family belongs to Ismaili Khoja community of Gujarat.Ismaili khojas are converts from hindu Lohana community.For a long time after converting the Ismailis kept their hindu names and traditions.That should clear up the mystery of non-muslim names in Jinnah’s family.For the record
    M A Jinnah’s father was Jinnahbhai.
    Jinnah’s gfather:Poonjabhai
    Jinnah’s ggfather:Gokuldas
    Jinnah’s gggfather:Meghjibhai.
    The family name was Thakkar.
    Nothing sinister about this since 99% of muslims of South Asia are of hindu descent.
    Jinnah was a great man – still misunderstood by both Pakistanis and Indians.I am a lohana
    and take great pride in our most famous son.

    • October 28, 2009 2:58 pm

      I only knew (or remembered) Jinnah’s father’s name.
      Thanks for visiting my blog and sharing the info with all of us!

    • Libo permalink
      December 25, 2012 6:26 am

      Thanks for sharing. Very informative.

  18. hina permalink
    December 26, 2009 5:40 am

    I beg to differ with Tarun Dattani. Jinnah was Khoja Shia Isna Ashari and not Ismaili. I was told this by my mother whose father Vazirali Bandeali was a Jamaat leader of the Shia Khoja community in Bombay when Ratti died and Jinnah asked him (my grandfather) to help with the funeral arrangements at the shia Isna-Ashari Masjid.

    • Tarun Dattani permalink
      December 26, 2009 11:45 pm

      Jinnah was Ismaili – theres no doubt about that what so ever.Although later on in life he became a Sunni.However there is an explanation for Hina’s belief that he was Isna-Ashari.Ratti was denied burial in Ismaili burial grounds.Thats why Jinnah asked for help from Hina’s grandfather.Now it is possible that at this time Jinnah might have joined the Isna-Asharis.
      Last but not least – everything I have read and researched about Jinnah confirms that he was born an Ismaili.

  19. hina permalink
    December 27, 2009 10:00 pm

    Most Shia Isna-Ashari Khoja’sforefathers were Ismaili Khojas. They broke away from theIsmaili sect in the middle of the nineteenth century. I dont believe Jinnah ever said that he was either Isna-Ashari or Ismaili or Sunni . His siters married Isna Ashari Khojas and their grandchildren – at least the ones now in Pakistan – are all Isna Asharis.

    • Tarun Dattani permalink
      January 20, 2010 1:12 am

      There is some truth in Hina’s post .So here’s something more on the Quaid to correct error on my part and that of others.This is Yasser Latif Hamdani’s reply to my post.(http://pakteahouse.wordpress.com/2009/02/21/plain-mr-jinnah/)
      “Jinnah was born a Nizari Ismaili remained one till he was 25… and you’ve gotten the ancestry right.
      In 1901, one of his sisters- probably Mariam Peerbhoy- married into a non-Ismaili family of Bombay… consequently the Aga Khan ex-communicated her from the Ismaili faith…
      Jinnah and the rest of his family converted to Khoja Ithna Ashari sect in 1901 subsequently.
      They remained Khoja ithna ashari shias till their deaths… An affidavit to this effect was signed by Liaqat Ali Khan and Fatima Jinnah.
      Officially sanctioned Akbar S Ahmad has also tried to portray him as a Sunni… Akbar S Ahmad is more interested in presenting liberal Jinnah as a mainstream Muslim to prove that Sunni Islam is compatible with modernity and liberalism.”

  20. hina permalink
    December 27, 2009 10:02 pm

    P.S. to my last email. When I say that Jinnah never said that he belonged to any sect I mean after partition.

    • Tarun Dattani permalink
      December 27, 2009 11:48 pm

      Hina you are probably right.Jinnah might not have publicly declared his affiliation
      to Shias or Sunnis.Yet actions do speak louder than words for Jinnah did become a Sunni.There might be reasons for this.After all he was perhaps the most rational politician of his time.But this is not we were discussing.His origins is what we were delving into.So whether Ismaili,Isna Ashari or Memon it matters not –
      they all have Lohana origins including myself.

  21. January 19, 2010 4:08 pm

    Ayesha baji (i think ur bigger cause im 11)this was pretty informative and i was finding about jinnahs life and thanks 2 u for this informtion.

    dont mind about baji

  22. Ali permalink
    February 21, 2010 5:36 pm

    Jinnah was a planted British agent who did what he was supposed to do. Religion was never his priority as it is showed from his close relatives who are still following whatever their forefathers’ religion.

    • Huma permalink
      March 11, 2010 1:21 pm

      NO REALLY.. IF WE NEED TO COMMENT ON SUCH A RATIONAL POLITICIAN, WHO’SE STRUGGLED TO GVE US HOMELAND.. WE NEED TO BE AS RATIONAL AS HIM TO COMMENT THAT HE WAS A MERE BRITISHER’S PUPPET!! SO B4 COMMENTING, OR REPLYING ME.. THINK, READ, AND KNOW MORE!

  23. Huma permalink
    March 11, 2010 1:18 pm

    i’ve read a but of it..
    i’ve my final year project work.. i’ll finish it n some months nshallah and will get back tot his page iw ant to read all..
    STAY HERE!!!!!:)

  24. Saad permalink
    March 28, 2010 5:33 am

    Well i am finding the truth about the events that took place in 20th century and sorry to say but jinnah was a british agent and he was working in their interest. its all about divide and rule and this is what happened in this “sonay ki chirya”. religion has nothing to do with the separation, but many were killed and still are being killed every day in the name of religion because british know that these people ignite on this issue. anyways may Allah forgive us all.

  25. March 29, 2010 1:36 am

    Jinnah was a great human being and great human beings are suppose to be rational and intelligent and so was Gandhi :) No well read person (masters level student or above who has read enough about world history) in India or Pakistan or America or Britain can deny their greatness

    one of the things i want to do in life is learn the old world languages (arabic, hebrew, sanskrit,latin) and read all major religious texts (gita, bible, torahs, mahabharat, old testament, buddhist texts, new testament,) in original and unbasterdized forms.

    have you realised that religion is not just praying, its a way of living. by praying you are just vowing to live by the principles of the one you are praying to :) and no prophet himself said that he was a saviour of man-kind. Religion-the way we today see it (including the all the brahmins, mulla/maulvis, priests, popes, et al) is all manifestation of how other people have seen it and its their way of looking at it.

    Men like Gandhi, Jinnah should be revered as gods but also irrevered as human sometimes. both had their reason to do what they did. so did our dear old nehru.
    Jinnah was a great patron of Gandhi when he initially came from South Africa.
    Jinnah has a mansion in India in his name and gadhi has one in pakistan. during partition, they both promised each other to take care of each other’s mansion.

    Jinnah and Nehru were perfect Englishmen who were hardly connected to Indian way of Indiannes/Pakiness and completely devoid of their heritage of cultural mannerisms during their study days. Its much later that they became who they were. I personally think India and Pakistan is a brew of their personal rivalry and British Conspiracy at that time. and I forgot one last name-Edwina Mountbatten, she was in an amazingly powerful position when it really mattered. Gandhi never fought for Indians until he was thrown out of a South African compartment.

    No one, no gandhi, jinnah, nehru etc are saints. they all had their reasons to do what they did-even if it was self-satisfaction. so don’t be blinded by faith or by illogicities. be logical and rational, if you really want to know about them read about history from banned books! (because thats why they are banned) form books which criticize one and all and which praise one and all. this way u will have an unbiased view. all this only if you want pure knowledge otherwise we will all have to go with the jingoism and propaganda around us.

    Every person at sometime or the other has had his personal reasons for doing what he has done. Some of these men changed lives of almost 2 billion people.

    There are somethings that need to be clarified to people outside.
    Muslim in India (atleast in the cosmopolitians) live in complete harmony and peace. its only because of democracy, infact India would have been amuch stronger nation with a much stronger muslim identity with pakistan and bangladesh intact. It would have been able to detract Israel’s policy and american hold. There would have been just 3 major powers->India, US and Russia. India would have had around 40-45% of its entire population as muslims. In a democracy thats a great boon :) a boon that a tattering military dictatorship can never assume. Infact the reason why military coup is a diktat in the pak constitution is a much larger debate->some say it was uk/us plan to instill puppets whenever they wanted (like in chile etc).

    I wished the terrorism stopped and people could visit each other’s country freely. My friend has been to Islamabad and has shown me photos and i love them so much that i really really want to visit but i can’t because of obvious reasons. The only people that can solve south asian trouble are the youth, educationists and students :)

    Most countries in the world including the most powerful ones rise and fall because of Economics and Finance and not because of anything else. Kings and King makers dance to the tunes of these sciences and they have no other option. The only power that ever really mattered was soft power, because hard power can’t come without soft power.

    just think about this question as rational beings without any prejudices. What do you think is the most important reason behind human misery in 19th 20th and 21st century? its has been religion and it will continue to be so. especially when religion mixes with politics and finance, and battle lines are drawn.

    in 21st century a few things will definitely happen
    1)US will try as hard as it can to not let China and India pass it over economically hence i expect more wars from republican presidents that US will throw at the world after Obama is ousted (because he is so very misunderstood and he is a perfectionist-politics is about give and take and not about idealism).
    2)the world will be about private corporation and not about countries. It will be driven by Economics and Finance and nothing more.
    3)Religion will again be the reason for most number of killings in the world.
    4)2nd biggest reason for wars will be natural resources.
    5)china will become a democratic nation but the transition will be bloody. after all how long can u let ppl stay away from blogs like this? or google.com or youtube.com or cnn.com or bbc.com or facebook.com??!!? its eventual.

    India’s greatest asset is its democracy, without which it would have perished long long ago.
    Pakistan’s greatest asset is its unity (baloch/nwfp will calm down sumday)

    You live for yourself, your country is suppose to provide you with all basic ammenities one of which is freedom

    Every major leader in India and Pakistan have most of their assets and sons/daughters stashed away in the US or UK and are educated at harvard or princeton or oxford or cambridge. They need not worry, You and I do :)
    They can ditch religion, nationality and thoughts at will.

    here are gandhi’s assasinator’s words by TIME magazine http://www.time.com/time/asia/magazine/2000/0214/india.godse.html

    this is godse’s speech in court->http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?7324-Nathu-Ram-Godse-s-Speech-At-The-Trial

    an Indian muslim about why he is not a terrorist
    http://www.anindianmuslim.com/2007/03/indian-muslims-are-away-from-extremist.html

    here is another question that needs to be resolved
    http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=26445752945&topic=68860

    Stop fighting for things that don’t matter.
    Fight for your and your countrymen/women’s rights.
    fight for 1) True Democracy and not lineage of leaders. 2) for Education->its the only thing that can make you fend for yourself
    3)public goods and their availability
    4)top notch health services
    5)Fight for your Economic rights.
    Stop lying to yourself and live life beyond jingoism. You are the only one who can save you and mankind. and try HUMANISM for a religion :)

    The only peaceful nations (externally) of the world are nations that have economic might.

    loved the entire ayesha5 blog and everyone’s thoughts on the same. revert back by email if you like (the author)

    PS:sorry for blurting out such irrelevant stuff :P

    • Kamonashish is a Bong Jingo permalink
      May 12, 2010 7:39 am

      What seemingly profound comments his wannabe-philosopher writes! The simple fact is that he’s just an uncouth, bragging Bengali commie!

  26. amit permalink
    April 16, 2010 6:37 pm

    hi, boss why u discussing about religion of jinnah,before religion he was humanbeing, both hindus and muslims have same blood, we all have one god,and god came to earth in diffrent areas and by diffrent name and we foolish people divide ourselves in diffrent religion,and fight with each other

  27. adil permalink
    May 10, 2010 11:07 pm

    What can not be cured must be endured
    That is a British proverb but you can frame it
    On Partition of India very correctly.
    India was divided by the British into Pakistan
    Same British first divided Bengal in the name of
    Religion…Divide and Rule
    Muslims,Sikhs,Hindus wake up now
    We all are same people
    99% have Hindu blood
    We are sons of the soil
    DOnt let Enemies divide us
    Lest they colony masters come back and again
    Rule india and Pakistan and we again become
    Their slaves for centuries to come./

  28. saman permalink
    May 17, 2010 3:32 am

    Dina is a muslim name..my niece’s name is dina..it means softness..

  29. Maroof permalink
    May 25, 2010 8:01 am

    nice article.
    atleast jinnahs heir are doing well in india.they would probably be rotting in military courts had they been in pokistan.
    as far as creation of pakistan and jinnah is concerned.he did it because it was a challenge for him.those halwa scholars who make a pure muslim out of him are basically secularists from within.they need nothing but a good halwa and a dargah.
    but all should accept the reality of pakistan and its existence.

    and probably it is correct that Jinnah would be a muslim just as Zardari Kiyani Abdus Salam and Benazir are and were

  30. June 9, 2010 12:59 pm

    Hi, its a nice debate, i want to share my thoughts with u guys,what i believe about Quaid E Azam, first o fall i dnt think it is right to judge him or discuss his religion,i believe he wasa pious man and he did so much for humanity and for the muslims of India, wherever he belonged to, he really loved and cared for the muslims of india.he gifted us with this homeland.whateve happened in his personal life is a sad point,but his achievement is greatest alone and we shoul all b proud of him,instead of accusing him for things which we dnt really know are truth or false.

  31. Amir. permalink
    June 20, 2010 9:11 am

    He gave muslims Pakistan and what they have made of it.

  32. Tariq Rao permalink
    July 8, 2010 5:19 am

    Whenever i heared about the great Jinnah i feel proud and my blood become more rapidly circulate in my body. he was the great person, the name of justice and patriotism Muhammad Ali Jinnah. I Love Him.

  33. July 10, 2010 9:13 am

    for the fir first time i saw both ind indian and pakistani people talking so politely

    thats some thing really heart touching

    according to me all of them were politicians

    gandhi was supported by the birlas as he supported there capitalistic mindsets

    nehru has had got his own personal motive to fulfill

    and so was jinnah

    there was just a conflict of interests

    otherwise we would have had been a great undivided country

    and dont forget congress was created by the british to make there rule easy
    and most of the people who joined congress were either erstwhile rulers or belonging to the richer section ‘who havent got any thing to do with the real india’

    according to me the real heroes were bhagat singh,chandra shekhar azad and Ashfaqulla Khan who selflessly laid there lifes for the country

  34. bakhtar permalink
    August 26, 2010 4:52 pm

    people who defend this hypocrite are hypocrites themselves

  35. Jawad Awan permalink
    October 31, 2010 4:24 pm

    Jinnah originated from word “Zuljinnah”, the horse of Hazrat Hussain , Grandson of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)

  36. Musaafira permalink
    November 15, 2010 7:51 pm

    I agree, Jinnah was an agent, think about it Muslims and Hindus lived in peace for over 100 years, what began to change when the new puppets were replaced with the likes of Jinnah, Ghandi and Nehru, We Want want Pakistan, India and Bengal as one again, we can not let the efforts of Muhammed Ibn Qasim to waste.

    What books could I read on the partition, obviously unbiased reads?
    any recommendations ?

    • m.iqbal permalink
      November 28, 2010 4:47 pm

      i stick with Mr Jinnah’s dicision of independant state of pakistan…since he had no choice after nanga gandhi refused Mr Jinna’s 14 nakaat solution for united india…how dare u call my jinnah an agent,he sacrifice his life for pakistan …think before u open ur mouth

  37. alina permalink
    January 13, 2011 2:47 am

    jinha is a gread leader. hazaro saal narges ipne benore py rote ha. tb hote ha chamin me de da ver pyda.

    • Aimon permalink
      August 22, 2011 3:53 pm

      alina this one verse sums it up..shame on all those ju baba e qaum k mutaliq itni na maqool guftugu kr aur sun rahay hain

  38. April 12, 2011 5:23 am

    Mr.Jinnah was great Leader , he sacrificed his life for the freedom of his people for his homeland, he was great muslim leader, it is because of his efforts that we are living our lives according to teachings of Islam,we have our separate identity ,

    May Allah Bless his soul rest in eternal peace.

  39. Abid Kitchlew permalink
    April 29, 2011 4:17 am

    Salam,

    Very interesting discussions and comments. @Musaafiraa the Book I would recommend not only to you but all of you would be QUAID-E-AZAM JINNAH – The Story of a Nation, written by G. ALLANA, Published by; Ferozsons Limited Year 1967. It is very much available…. It is very much an unbiased account by a person who knew my Quaid… and worked with him closely. It gives every detail from his birth till his death, from family to his thoughts and politics that he did. What he did and Why he felt that two nation theory was th only choice and why he did go for creation of Pakistan… Why he took on himself to do it.. the difficulties he faced (which answers the question if he was an agent or not which he certainly was not).

    Lets not judge people by what we ourselves like or dislike or wished for but judge them for their contributions in making history….lets for once try to respect them and understand why they felt the need to do it ….. so in future if similar situations rise we learn from the past and take conscious decisions for the betterment of our respective countries. I am a proud Pakistani (like a lot of my Indian friends who are proud Indians) I am a Muslim and I respect all the leaders who contributed in the freedom movement and Partition. My family like a lot of others was directly also involved politics of that time. The decisions taken by Mr. Jinnah, Mr. Gandhi, Mr. Nehru and a host of others were very much conscious one as division / partition of areas were then mutually agreed upon by both sides. We if nothing else need to respect all of them and their decisions as they were the ones selected to do what they did. They were the ones who were their at the right time at the right place to do what was required. Some of us call it destiny…some required ….. and some regard it as a bad decision. What we need to understand is that IT HAPPENED and lets respect each other and move forward. if thishad happened or if this had not happened is the only thing due to which our swords/guns and our military has exchanged what should not have been exchanged. Lets live in peace as that is the only thing which will give us respect and prosperity, ….economic and financial strength….. Mr. Jinnah was a great man and so were Mr. Gandhi and Mr. Nehru…. those who have read history and understood it realise it those who have not will create their own assumptions, theories and philosophies. My advice is read and understand what really happened…. why it happened…. and haw it came to this…. their were no egos involved….. their was thought for the betterment of people. One had one perspective and the other had another……. Things break when compromise cannot be done… things break when point of flexibility ends…. things break when pre-set minimum benchmarks are to be overrun…. that is why both sides decided and mutually agreed to part. So lets respect their decisions instead of slandering them or ridiculing them…..Only in this case would we be able to live peacefully as per their respective visions and make our respective countries strong and prosperous. May Allah bless You all :)

    Abid Kitchlew

  40. June 6, 2011 6:17 am

    Nice.
    Thank You for this Post.

  41. June 6, 2011 6:03 pm

    THIS HISTORY SEEMS A LOAD OF RUBBISH WHO GOES HOME KILLS HIS OR HER OWN NATIONALS AND TELLS ANOTHER NATION IT’S A GREAT ACHEIVEMENT SOME NUTS GOT TO BE SQUEEZED OUT OF THIS CRAZY LOT, WHAT A LOAD OF MENTAL CASES YOU SCRIBBLED UP A FLAG AND SHOWN YOUR NATION’S VILLAGE TO A BUNCH OF HYPRICRITS GAHNDI CAME FROM TIBET NOT FROM WHAT YOU PLANNED THE GUY WAS A TRAVELLING BUDDIST ON HIS MISSION OF PREACHING.JINNAH OUR GREAT SAVIOUR HAD A AAT GINTHEY IN HIS BEYFKOOFY HIS NEXT MISSION WAS GAR BNOU AUR KUM KOI AUR JO AUR PAGAL BANOO .THE EDUCATION MUST BE GOOD BUZZ TO RULE THE NATIONS. I GOT TO SOME BUZZ FROM THIS BEYFKOOFY TOO.

    • June 7, 2011 11:27 am

      It will be nice if you use lower case letters.

  42. Adil Ronaq permalink
    June 15, 2011 10:55 am

    Jinnah was a Munafiq, hypocrite Yazid who was recruited by British Raj
    As a paid agent to divide and destroy India samer is true about Nehru and Gandhi as well Sardar Patel all British trained agents.Jinnah never had thoughts about
    Any religious movement but under British Raj orders he acted to deport millions
    Of muslims from India. He destroyed muslim culture,language and political power
    India to found a dummy and Begherut Munafiq $ Beggar country Pakistan.
    Pakistan is a black spot in Islamic history of 1500 years a country which is a
    Dulla and broker of super powers.May Allah give us right direction.Pakistan
    Is controlled by Super Powers to promote false mullah Islam and to divide
    And punish muslims.Pakistan rulers were all certified Munafiqs like Mushaaraf,
    Gen Zia, Gen Yahya , Zradari etc

  43. faiza permalink
    August 1, 2011 4:48 am

    all are who says that QUAID was a worng actully they all are rascalzzzzzzzzz

  44. faiza permalink
    August 1, 2011 4:50 am

    nd tell me ayeha did u do any thng 4 pakistan ……………

    • August 1, 2011 10:55 am

      I didn’t steal anything from Pakistan.

    • Adil Ronaq permalink
      August 1, 2011 2:07 pm

      I have BRITISH Documents to prove Jinnah Qatil Azam was
      A British Paid Agent recruited by British to Kick out
      Muslims from India same as they kicked out Muslims from
      Spain. Pakistani INNOCENT people have been BRAINWASHED
      I was One of them but went to England to do research ANd
      Found the TRUTH about Munafiq Qatil of Millions of Muslims becuase
      OF Jinnah Muslims of India and Pakistan sacrificed 4 Million Muslims
      THE WORST EVER TRAGEDY IN ISLAMIC HISTORY is 1947 and 1971 Both tragedies were caused by Jinnah Murtid

    • August 1, 2011 2:14 pm

      Would you like to share that British document?

  45. Adil Ronuq permalink
    August 2, 2011 2:09 pm

    Please read this and either prove it wrong or accept that creation of pAKISTAN
    Was a British conspiracy.
    The British Concept of Pakistan:
    The above schemes were being hatched by the Muslims. The final decision rested with the British. When the British saw that their objectives could not be met by the schemes presented by Sikander Hayat Khan or the Muslim League Working Committee, they unilaterally rejected all the proposals submitted by the Muslims. Chaudhry Zafarullah, a member of the Viceroy’s Executive Council, was asked to submit a map of two dominions. On that subject, on 12 March 1940, Viceroy Lord Linlithgow wrote to the Secretary of Stale for India:
    Upon my instruction Zafarullah wrote a memorandum on the subject. Two Dominion States. I have already sent it to your attention. I have also asked him for further clarification, which, he says, is forthcoming. He is anxious, however, that no one should find out that he has prepared this plan. He has, however, given me the right to do with it what I like, including sending a copy to you. Copies have been passed on to Jinnah, and, I think, to Sir Akbar Hydari. While he, Zafarullah, cannot admit its authorship, his document has been prepared for adoption by the Muslim League with a view to giving it the fullest publicity.
    The Viceroy explains this further. Since Zafarullah was a Qadiani he had to be cautious. The Muslims would become irritated if they found that this scheme was prepared by a Qadiani. The Viceroy said that Jinnah had been given a copy to make the Muslim League adopt it and publicise its contents. Sir Akbar was given a copy because he was responsible for fund raising. The dates take on a special significance. The Viceroy’ s letter to the Secretary of State was written on 12 March 1940.
    After that Jinnah British paid agent arranged meeting of 23rd March 1940
    Called Qurar Dad Pakistan in Lahore under BRITISH ORDERS
    YOU CAN READ IT HOW VICEROY ORDERED ZAFARULLAH TO CREATE A MAP OF
    TWO DOMINIONS–MIND IT DOMINION NOT A COUNTRY..

  46. Adil Ronuq Shah permalink
    August 2, 2011 6:27 pm

    First Time in PAKISTAN after 65 years of Conspiracy HERE IS THE TRUTH
    MAY ALLAH GOD GIVE US HIDAYET AND TAUFEEQ TO ACCEPT THE TRUTH
    280 page 508 (full text)
    Sir F Burrows(Bengal) to Field Marshal Viscount Wavell
    GOVERNMENT HOUSE, CALCUTTA
    17 January 1947

    My dear Lord Wavell,
    Many thanks for your letter no. 40/3 of the 14th January on a variety of subjects raised in my last fortnightly letter. Though, of course, I entirely get your point when you say “it is no bad thing that he (Gandhi) should remain for the present in a remote corner of Bengal”, you will, I am sure, appreciate that that is a point of view to which I and my Ministers would not wholeheartedly subscribe!

    I can well believe what you say about the draft resolution the little man drafted for the All-India Congress Committee about H.M.G.’s declaration of December the 6th. It is encouraging that Patel at all events showed a greater sense of realism. In this connection I think you would be interested to see a piece of secret information which our Intelligence Branch have got hold of, which tends to bear out your own information as to Patel’s attitude.

    I believe these reports no longer reach the D.I.B. The “Agent” is believed to be reliable and I think myself that the report rings true.
    Yours sincerely,
    F.J.Burrows.
    READ THE LAST SENTENCE AGENT IS RELIABLE YOU GOTTT IT if you are smart
    7 minutes ago · Edit Post · Delete Post
    Ronuq Shah
    Now read this and understand if PAKISTAN was a MUSLIM plan or a BRITISH CONSPIRACY
    From The Transfer of Power 1942-7, Volume X.
    124 page 198 (excerpt)
    Sir E. Mieville to Rear-Admiral Viscount Mountbatten of Burma
    11 April 1947
    Your Excellency,
    I saw Mr. Jinnah for half an hour this afternoon. He was at his very best. He started by recalling the luncheon party at which we were both present at Buckingham Palace last December and told me how much he had enjoyed it. He said that his enjoyment was enhanced by the fact that on talking to the King he found that His Majesty was pro Pakistan. On talking to the Queen after luncheon he found that Her Majesty was even more pro Pakistan, and finally when he had a conversation with Queen Mary he found that Her Majesty was 100% Pakistan! I replied that I was sorry that Their Majesties had acted in such an unconstitutional way as to express their opinions on political matters connected with their Indian Empire, at which he laughed quite a lot.
    (end excerpt
    I HAVE MORE TO DISCLOSE BRITISH DOCUMENTS BUT Please read above

    • September 20, 2011 10:07 pm

      mountbatten are tourists from germany that date back from history there national villagers from battenburg and not part of any royal regimes if you don’t read the history of who’s who you could get yourself into trouble with national travel and cultures heritages of authorities of all nations.i’ve read about the history to the name and etc.

  47. kas permalink
    August 4, 2011 5:07 pm

    Jinnah was great person, a great great person.the jew persons like Adil Ronuq Shah cannot spoil his achievements.

  48. Desicanuk permalink
    August 5, 2011 7:54 am

    To Kas:What has Jew to do with this on going debate about Quaid.In fact if the Quaid were alive to-day he would have nothing to do with you or other bigots who are busy turning his dream into a nightmare that is facing this great land.

  49. Adil Ronaq Shah permalink
    August 5, 2011 12:15 pm

    First and foremost point is that AREAS included in Broken West wing
    Of Pakistan were already under MUSLIM control and rule ….WHAT was
    Jinnah doing simply helping BRITISH MASTERS as their paid agent to
    DEPORT and KICK OUT muslims from BRITISH INDIA to undeveloped,Barren
    Lands in between Afghanistan and Iran.
    Jinnah is not solely responsible there was a group of selfish , evil
    Feudal Land lords and Nawabs loyal to British Raj planned this MASSACRE
    ,Carnage of 1947 to completely destroy Muslims political power in India.They created DUMMY dominions NOT country as Jinnah was GOVERNOR
    GENERAL representing British Crown (Raj) as now a days we have Governor General in Australia representing UK.
    Please be an honest person and answer the following Question
    WHY all Freedom Fighters were sent to JAIL by British RAJ except JINNAH(Simple reason being he was a British Paid Agent)

  50. August 6, 2011 12:08 pm

    GOOD STORIES DOES THAT GIVE ME MORE RUPEES OR DO HAVE TO HANG OUT WITH MORE JOHNAH’S THESE ASAMS ARE BORING DO I GET ANOTHER 1000 RUPEES WITH MY FACE ON IT, MOST MUSLIMS ARE ISLAMIC REPUBLICS.EVERY NON IDIOT KNOWS THAT DON’T KNOW HOW THESE GUYS DIDN’T.

  51. Adil Ronaq Shah permalink
    August 8, 2011 3:09 pm

    COMMENTS of MIRPURIA
    GOOD STORIES DOES THAT GIVE ME MORE RUPEES OR

    WOWOW HOW DUMB YOU CAN BE MORE???

    This TYPICAL of Most MUNAFIQ Muslims HOw much Money Iam getting for??
    JINNAH got paid 30 Lakh Rupees per year by BRITISH RAJ to KICK OUT
    Muslims from INDIAN POLITICS…………..
    How much Zardari, Gen Zia, Gen Yahya … OVERSEAS REcruited AGENTS
    MOEEN QURESHI- SHAUKAT TAREEN were citizens of some OTHER country
    BECAME PRIME MINISTER Of PAkistan….
    On and On POOR Pakistani muslims are suffering unable to feed their families
    And NOW not even SAFE to go to MOSQUES due to recent situation
    With daily killing and Bombing…..
    Who is to be BLAMED you tell me…..ANswer= JINNAH QATIL AZAM

  52. Adil Ronuq Shah permalink
    August 9, 2011 4:04 pm

    Read it and be truthful to Allah and decide
    If this quote from Speech is from a Terrorist???

    “I am not prepared to discuss ethics. We have a pistol and are in a position to use it.” So said Mohammad Ali Jinnah while delivering his presidential speech at the Muslim League convention on July 19, 1946.

    If you can refute it please show me the proof but this is 100% based on facts

  53. August 9, 2011 4:12 pm

    thanks to all of you on the comments of all your nations dignitories i will remeber you all but will you remember your own roots first, then carry on with all your great outbursts of all your nations help to all if you dis- agree then go to another nation and talk to them about your know how of your dictators that rescue you from various problems you cause and annoy inside your own cultures. try outside your own and be intelligent then talk and write on about what you know outside your own.

  54. Adil Ronaq Shah permalink
    August 11, 2011 2:18 am

    Jinnah was a paid British Agent
    He did the same way British ordered him to do
    He gave CONTROL of all pakistan rivers to India by accepting
    HANDICAP Pakistan on disputed land belonging to Afghanistan & Baluchistan
    Now INDIA can create FLOOD any time in Pakistan as it created LAST YEAR.
    Jinnah gave 36 Muslims states to India DOUBLE the LAND size of present
    Pakistan.Hyderabad, Junagadeh,Bhopal,Rampur, Awedh etc.
    Jinnah accepted the STUPID partition of India EVEN A BLIND MAN
    WONT ACCEPT ,,,two parts of a country diviided east and west with THOUSANDS Miles
    APART,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Result Pakistan was broken within 25 years , now the left over Pakistan is in the WORST Situation of any country in the world. pakistan has been
    surviving on CHARITY and Donations of other countries that is the reason
    There can not be a nationalist government most of them are PAID AGENTS
    Like Moeen Qureshi and Shaukat Tareen…Where are they NOW????
    They went back to their own country of Uncle Sam where they were sent from
    To rule and fool poor pakistanis and destroy economy of Pakistan
    May Giod Allah save this ill fated country from further destruction . AMEN

  55. August 11, 2011 4:11 pm

    my friend, Pakistan is strong as strong as your every message and hatred. may be you need to leave the people of Pakistan and go to a better nation or a safari park or see various beautiful nations and there people or meet the most craziest Pakistani’s to give you a good time if you got the cash then we got your hate to see the enjoyment of all the nation to your understanding my friend Adil.come out and see the future and past of all the world of Pakistan in the eyes of the people that you can explain your hatred and what is your upset towards all .there are local community advisers and mental peoples advisers and there are various organisations for the mentally crazy even enjoying trips for the hated and there are trips for those that can’t understand the nation and it’s origins and cultures.YOURS YOUR FRIEND MIRPURI LOVE AND ENJOYMENT TO YOU.

  56. August 11, 2011 6:33 pm

    THANK YOU ADIL I’VE READ YOUR MAIL IT’S INTRESTING BRITISH PAID AZAM MONEY I NEVER NEW HE HAD A BRAIN CELL OF BRITISH UNDERSTANDING MAY IF GOD INTERGRATED THE BRAIN CELLS TO ALL THE DICTATORS THEY COULD ALL HAVE GIVEN BIRTH INTELLIGENT NATIONALS IT WHAT HAVE BEEN AMAZING A NEW PROPHET CALLED ALPHABET THEY LOOK GOOOD IN A DICTATORS ZOO FOR THE MENTALLY STUPID AFTER HAVING MET THE GREAT BRITISH.OR THE GREAT EUROPEANS.GOOD HAPPINESS TO ALL OF YOU SEND ME SOME MORE REPLIES WERE DO YOU COME FROM.

  57. Adil Ronuq Shah permalink
    August 12, 2011 12:21 pm

    My friend PEACE FOR ALL
    I just shared my grief being a muslim to know
    WHAT HAPPENED IN 1947
    AND AFTER 65 YEARS
    Where we stand. I am not a politician
    I dont need anything from any one Just sharing my TRUTHFUL REASEARCH
    Of 20 plus years in UK , Pakistan and other countries

    You will answer to ALLAH that you dont have feelings for miseries of MUSLIMS
    You only CONSIDER JINNAH a PORK Eater.WINE DRINKER who never went to any MOSQUE , Once he attended EID Namaz , He was asking LOUDLY from his
    Secretary… WHAT IS NEXT…… WHAT IS NEXT until Namaz finished
    I beleive not only Jinnah but also Nehru and Patel were on British Payroll as Agents
    PLEASE GOOGLE Jinnah a British Agent …. You will find many people of the same views
    It is hard to believe but is is 100% based on facts
    Many news and real facts dont come to surface because of censorship
    For example Gen Zia Nahaq was working in Pakistan Embassy Jordan(Amman)
    He was a Turtle agent of super Powers but working in disguise as Military Attache,
    ,He killed thousands of Palestanians in Military operation led by him on orders
    From super powers to save King of Jordan Hussain
    You can google that event also BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE KNOW about
    Gen Zia Nahaq working in Pakistan Embassy to lead MILITARY OPERATION IN JORDAN
    In 1970 called BLACK SEPTEMBER

  58. August 12, 2011 1:05 pm

    thanks but i enjoy your every message i’m happy you know all the history, halal is good food but when you are in another culture anything is understood Jordanian Alchol is good to drink nearly all real Muslims and non religious Muslims drink. don’t be a child you may know more about history than me but i’m still learning and enjoying.i’m not too much into acting my age, but i enjoy serious history and acting history send me some more madness if i can’t handle it, i will pass it to someone in another reply OK good luck.

  59. August 12, 2011 1:08 pm

    does anyone know any Pakistani Bahraini families are they talkatively stupid or etc.

  60. August 13, 2011 8:39 am

    there are alot of displaced pakistani’s in uk cultures all want to become english some of them want to rule the country some have dreams of every other sort of wierd things could you answer me are they all village herders or just bred of there own culture that they wnt to be abroad to learn things.you were saying jordan well i have met the great peers that preach and say to become a prophet there are various things to do.i’m not to sure about what they mean but i think excersice is good for everyone.? thanks write to you all again.

  61. August 15, 2011 9:55 am

    ramazan mubarak to all

  62. Ronuq Shah permalink
    September 23, 2011 3:03 pm

    Mr. Mirpuri if you are in United Kingdom make some efforts to go visit
    Brtish Library India office declassified archives and find the truth about Jinnah

  63. September 25, 2011 11:05 am

    I’LL ASk the indian consulate in uk your question if no answer i’ll ask the local british in a pub and then send you an answer after getting drunk and ejoying my holiday.

  64. October 21, 2011 1:42 am

    I am writing a book with the title “IN THE NAME OF ALLAH” consolidating political from 1937 to date. I liked your comments and have incorporated with slight modification in my book. Please send me your thoughts and other comments.

    The grandfather, of M.A. Jinnah was Poonja Gokuldas Meghji, who was a Hindu Bhatia Rajput from Paneli village in Gondal state in Kathiawar. Jinnah’s ancestors were Hindu Rajputs; his grandfather had converted to Ismaili religion . Jinnah’s family belonged to the Ismaili Khoja branch.

    M.A. JINNAH LATER CONVERTED TO TWELVER KHOJA SHI’A ISLAM. IN 19TH CENTUARY, SOME KHOJA EMBARKED ON ZIYARAT AND WHILE IN NAJAF, THEY MET THE TWELVER MUJTAHID OF THE TIME, SHEIKH ZAIN AL-ABEDIN MAZANDARANI. DURING THEIR DISCUSSION THEY ADOPTED THE TWELVER SHI’I CAUSE AT THE BEHEST OF SHEIKH MAZANDARANI. MULLAH KADER HUSSEIN ARRIVED IN THE SUBCONTINENT ESPOUSING TWELVER SHI’ISM RSULTING IN SEVERAL MORE KJHOJA FAMILIES LEAVING THE ISMAILI FAITH. PERHAPS THE MOST NOTABLE KHOJA ISMAILI TO CONVERT TO TWELVERISM WAS MUHAMMAD ALI JINNAH, PAKISTAN’S FOUNDING FIGURE AND GOVERNOR GENERAL. IN FACT M.A. JINNAH WAS A MODERNIST. HE CHANGED HIS RELIGION TO SHIA FAITH THAT GUIDED BY THE INFALLIBLE IMAMS AND ABONDONED HIS ATTACHMENT WITH HIS OLD FAITH OF ISMAILI RELIGION.

    I have done lot of research, but I could not find a single evidence that Jinnah, ever visited any mosque to pay his prayer. Last Year I was in India and visited Aligarh, Agra and Delhi, visited Sir Syed Mosque in University Campus, Badshhi Mosque in Agra & Delhi, but no evidence, that Jinnah ever came to these mosque’s. He never visited Makkah or Madina, as other Muslim Leaders, like Abul Kalam Azad, Maulana Mohammad Ali Jauhar etc. Please let me know, if you have any.

    I am of firm believe that Jinnah was not a Muslim but an agent of Hindus and British. They wanted to shatter Muslims of Subcontinent ( 150 millions in 1947 and now close to 500 million) and were successful with the assistance of Jinnah, by dividing them in India, Bangladesh and Pakistan. In Pakistan, there is no Pakistani Nation, but Sindhi Nation, Balouch Nation, Pakhtoon Nation, Urdu speaking nation, Punjabi nation and Saraiki Nation and Potohari Nation. You will see Pakistan Flag in Official Buildings, but all over flags of PPP, PML (N), PML (Q), ANP, MQM. Today, one of the Pakistani do remember Mohammad Ali Jinnah but Altaf Hussain, Asif Zardari, Nawaz Sharif etc.

    Jinnah’s courting the princes of Hindu states and his gambit with Junagadh mpproves his ill intentions towards India, as he advanced the theory that Hindus and Muslims could not live together, yet coveted control of Hindu-majority states. In his book Patel: A Life, Rajmohan Gandhi asserts that Jinnah sought to engage the question of Junagadh with an eye on Kashmir—he wanted India to ask for a plebiscite in Junagadh, knowing thus that the principle then would have to be applied to Kashmir, where the Muslim majority would, he believed, vote for Pakistan.

    Jinnah was more concerned about Junagarh, but less worried about Kashmir. He gave Gurdauspur to India in a silver plate, an exist to India to Kashmir.

    • October 21, 2011 2:27 pm

      each story etc that was studied by you was part of your enjoyment or maddness or unhappy story tellers of those times from those generation’s that had told one story and then confused you to another go out and enjoy yourself find a good job and enjoy yaara don’t waste away with the talkative story tellers they can’t get you rich or etc there a waste of time with the story after story.

    • October 21, 2011 3:39 pm

      i have an idea i could ask Pakistan/AJK nationals in UK if there all not too busy or the local travel and tourism of foreign national advisers or community nationals of Pakistan origin OR THE EMBASSY TOUR OPERATOR OR THE VARIOUS CONSULATE ADVISERS MY HAPPY FULL REGARDS TO YOUR HAPPINESS WHEN I’M READY OR NOT TO ASK I’LL LET YOU KNOW THE RESULT OF MY FINDINGS.IF IT’S CORRECT TO RESPOND TO YOUR WRITINGS AND FINDINGS.

    • Tarun Dattani permalink
      October 28, 2011 1:02 pm

      Ainuddin take a look at my comments earlier on.Here is the start:

      Tarun Dattani PERMALINK
      October 28, 2009 12:34 pm
      The name Jinnah is not derived from Arabic.Mr M A Jinnah coverted his father’s name into his surname by dropping bhai from Jinnahbhai.Jinnah’s family belongs to Ismaili Khoja community of Gujarat.Ismaili khojas are converts from hindu Lohana community.For a long time after converting the Ismailis kept their hindu names and traditions.That should clear up the mystery of non-muslim names in Jinnah’s family.For the record
      M A Jinnah’s father was Jinnahbhai.
      Jinnah’s gfather:Poonjabhai
      Jinnah’s ggfather:Gokuldas
      Jinnah’s gggfather:Meghjibhai.
      The family name was Thakkar.
      Nothing sinister about this since 99% of muslims of South Asia are of hindu descent.
      Jinnah was a great man – still misunderstood by both Pakistanis and Indians.I am a lohana
      and take great pride in our most famous son.

    • Ronuq Shah permalink
      November 2, 2011 11:24 pm

      Brother Siddiqi saheb ASA
      Thanks for understanding my point of view as I have spent over 20
      Years in western countries to gather the facts.I am no more a
      Citizen of Pakistan as I lived abroad but have the pains and feelings
      Of muslims of Indo Pak who are suffering since 65 years.Mohterim Janab
      It was not a DIVISION of India but Destruction of Muslim Political Power
      As well as Deportation of Millions of muslims from their own land .Muslims were hijacked by British Raj Goras with the help of Nawabs and their Paid agent Jinnah.Anyway I can predict that once more
      Declassified documents from United Kingdom will come to surface people
      Will know the REAL FACTS And Stories as well DRACULA DRAMA behind Creation of Pakistan.If India remained united muslim population of about 45% would had achieved great hold on the government machinery of India but whatever happened can never be undone.Please keep in touch
      At ron40@in.com Lastly a RAY OF HOPE for indian muslims after 65 years
      Of struggle and suffering there is MUSLIM GOVERNMENT IN KERALA STATE.
      Congratulations to all Indo Pak muslims , Now we have 2 Muslim states in
      Union of India, Kashmir and Kerala and very soon we will get third & Fouth and fifth by the grace of Allah. Khuda Hafiz

    • November 17, 2011 2:18 am

      you are right to have book you must mention all there goings on. i’m britishit culture studying humor bussiness and human organisms and alein brain cells it’s good fun there are many nationals studying all types my study is mainly bussiness and how to run a bussiness with no gora chors.

    • November 18, 2011 2:38 am

      my pakistani britishit national freinds and everyone are very happy to be nationalised to the britshit culture may they all go home in happiness after there travels from here hope they not learn’t gora madness before leaving and have invited there guests to there own cultures as well.

  65. October 21, 2011 2:18 am

    Mr. Adil Ronaq Shah

    Please see my comments dated 21-10-2011 at 1.42 a.m., impressed with your comments. I would like to add. Had Pakistan not come into being, besides the fact that that fate of Muslim States (Rajwaras) would have been different. There would have been two National Languages Hindi and Urdu. There would have been a sizeable quota for Muslims in Civil Services, there would have been seven Muslim majority Governments, Baluchistan, Sind, NWFP, Kashmir, Full Punjab, full Bengal, Assam, and in UP coalition Government with Shudar Cast.

    Ainuddin Siddiqi

    • October 21, 2011 2:16 pm

      that’s exciting to read but what does all this pakistan give me on and on about pakistan can i get something you should take a look at the generation’s ahead are they the new excitement to take on the national struggles.

    • October 25, 2011 9:17 pm

      muslim and casts are all good rajwari’s and all understandings of fact and fiction is all part of the histories of various lands there culture enjoy which is your next governments going in together.how do your understandings work in understanding governments and everything around you.

    • October 28, 2011 11:37 am

      quadi azam may he rest in peace was a muslim civil servant and an islamic servant to the people of his nation and not knowing him personally to my knowledge created the wealth and prosperity. my regards to him and his family for there hard work.all those that dislike any enjoyment and prosperity a millions of curses to them, not for the amount of any rupees,or any currency can we all see the enjoyment in the new pakistan and ajk.

    • sameer permalink
      December 20, 2011 5:28 am

      if wishes were horses beggars would ride…..wishful thinking……..wrong inferences you seem to be drawing……….

  66. Ronuq Shah permalink
    November 19, 2011 11:49 pm

    Dear Mr. Ainuddin Siddiqi Saheb
    I appreciate your approach to understand the complicated issue of
    Pakiestan independence and partition of India. Let me also add to
    What you have said earlier Pakistan was created to KICK OUT muslims’From Indian politics and government.If India remained United
    Muslims would had been ruling ALL OF INDIA as they are almost 50% of
    Total indian population. As well Baluchistan would had been an independent Islamic country as it was never part of BRITISH INDIA only
    Sibi-Quetta and Road to Chaman was leased to British Goras from KALAT
    Even British Goras needed VISAS to enter BALUCHISTAN. Under Durrand
    Agreement signed in 1892 Most of Pakistan Punjab and NWFP would had
    Reurned to Afghanistan as per the lease conditions. British used their

    Agents Nawabs and JINNAH Pork Eating paid agent to destroy muslim unity And DIVIDE muslims into Three parts East/West Pakistan and India as per
    Divide and Rule policy.Jinnah was paid 30 Lakhs rupees per year to Qatil azam jinnah to EXECUTE their SAZISH and still after 65 years it
    is no end to DISASTOR and miseries

    • November 20, 2011 5:05 pm

      is quiad e azam a national from persia due to his family travellers and name of privacy from persian history.

  67. December 12, 2011 7:32 am

    Jinnah was a Kathiawadi Muslim, whose grandfather, Poonja Meghji, had converted to Islam. However, both the Quaid’s father and grandfather did not adopt Muslim names, and many of the customs they followed as Khoja Ismailis were semi-Hindu. Jinnah’s original last name was Jinnahbhai. He dropped the ‘bhai’ at Lincoln’s Inn.

    • December 16, 2011 7:10 pm

      that’s good have you heard get a british passport free entry to see the british at work and you get a free job to survive and you get a british uk king to be your partner like marriage for life ask the tourist board before you come and you get a british koosrah too for free.

  68. Bedu permalink
    December 16, 2011 3:58 pm

    To Ronuq Shah On your post dated November 2, 2011 11:24 pm

    India is a democratic republic. The governments are of political parties and not that of religious parties. The government of Kerala is of the people of kerala irrespective of their religion. If it was so, then the pro-hindu parties would have ruled India from beginning. I pity on you when you say there will be more muslim states/nations in India. Particularly in Kerala, there is no past or recent history of any type of religious riotes. Kerala is a very beautiful and peaceful state to live and enjoy.

  69. Ronuq Shah permalink
    December 28, 2011 6:53 pm

    Dear Readers,
    I always support unity and dont preach partition as Mr. Bedu claims
    But facts are facts. Muslims in India need to be a part of MAINSTREAM
    But the fact of the matter is they are treated like Shuddras.
    Muslims fought with Hindus and Sikhs for Freedom and gave sacrifices
    Which were never being acknowledged and Muslims need to get fair share of
    Their statistics. Unity of India and Pakistan is the only solution. I have vision that
    Instead of looking at people on the basis of faith we must differentiate people
    On the basis of Good or Bad Character. Jai Hind

  70. January 3, 2012 8:30 am

    if they were the true pakistani’s blood they would be here in pakistan not anywhere else … simple

  71. Akhtar permalink
    February 3, 2012 5:53 am

    I dont think its important if Jinnah was a Muslim or not or if he used to eat pork or drink wine , or even if he was a british agent
    i neither confirm nor deny this , as i have no bases on doing so but what is important is now
    Pakistan is in trouble and we need to work this situation out

    • February 18, 2012 5:36 pm

      akhtar pork etc is something you know but i do’nt but i wish you every prophet’s blessings in learning all of jinnah’s family eating and drinking happiness may you have the great enjoyment of doing the same thing .i believe the prophet’s of mohammed and his disciples give you every wish and enjoyment.

  72. Jalees Faruqui permalink
    February 12, 2012 10:06 pm

    This is regarding Dina, the only child and daughter of Quaid-i-Azam.

    When he was seriously ill, and everyone knew his end was near, Dina who was in Bombay, applied for a visa for Pakistan. Her visa application was rejected. She then applied again, this time from Delhi. Again it was rejected. Then she applied from London, again it was rejected. She wanted to find out why, but nobody would tell her the reason.

    The moment news of Quaid’s death was received, she was immediately handed the visa, and she rushed to Karachi.

    Later, when she inquired about the earlier refusals, she was told that everybody wanted to issue her the visa, but it were the Quaid’s orders that no visa be issued as long as he lived. This is what I heard from very senior government officials.

  73. T.s.bhutta permalink
    February 21, 2012 5:24 am

    Why ur g.father make this kind of pakistan

    • March 20, 2012 10:08 am

      so you know about maternal nationals that’s very exciting may be you should do the same looking for your own maternal background.

    • March 20, 2012 10:14 am

      if you want to get bored and feel you need help in minipulation contact a european or a british english national or the whole languge family of a-z they give better minipulated mess about’s then yours you might get to meet there selves in there national appearrance. they could tell you mopre about the family of jinnah.

  74. ImGreen permalink
    May 15, 2012 6:18 pm

    Now this is Pakistan’s History! …A Muslim isnt one who shows how much he prays to other people.. a Muslim is one who is strong of character, with great moral values, who doesn’t lie or cheat and is trustworthy. A Muslim is one who follows Islam and that is what Islam teaches..to be fair & just. May Allah swt grant Jinnah a beautiful palace in Jannah-ameen.

  75. Ahmed Raza permalink
    May 17, 2012 8:36 am

    TO all of those who’s saying against the Great Quaid-e-Azam. Specially Ronuq Shah..who has so much sampathies with Muslims of Indo Pak and hate British Raj but live as a slave of them

    BTW My point is that, Pakistan was not the idea of Quaid-e-Azam. It was the idea of Allama Iqbal (few Muslims call him Hazrat). As Allama Iqbal was not polician and went to so many Mosques, never ate pork, drunk wine etc etc..his family is still muslim etc etc.

    Pakistan was a dream of Iqbal came true as efforts of Quaid-e-Azam. The thing is that Quaid’s life was controversial so every writer and politician started to write consipiracies about him and shit minded Paki’s, Indo’s started to believe him. This is British/Hindu Policy to make beleive that their Founder was a secular person who advocated and made a country in the name of religion. Nobody can challenge the personality of Iqbal.

    So ignorant people doing reserch in England, India, google etc etc there’s always one thing which matters and thts “substance over form”

    Have anyone of you realized that Quaid was brought back to India by IqbaL

    • Ronuq Shah permalink
      May 25, 2012 1:23 pm

      That is the Pak waderas fabricated story.The creation of Pakistan was the BIGGEST
      BLUNDER in the history of the world Quote from Mr Raza
      .Have anyone of you realized that Quaid was brought back to India by IqbaL
      Mind id the SUPER POWER GAMES are not JUST as EASY as Mr Raza thinks
      Muslims were made FOOLS by putting Paid agents as their leaders.Jinnah acted the
      Same way he promised PEACE for Indopak muslims ???What you got after 65 years is
      Murders,kidnapping,riots,civil war,refugees……
      For your info PAKISTAN ARMY killed more muslims than Indian Army alone Bengalis
      Were 2 millions butchered by Paky Munafiqs.Read the history learn from facts.
      Pakistan from day one is uNDER CONTROL of DEVIL poswers they APPOINT prime misiters and presidents as their agents. No wonder JINNAH Qatil Azam was a paid recruited British Agent,,, as most of Paky officials and rulers are on the PAY PLAN of foreign powers.

  76. Ronuq Shah permalink
    May 25, 2012 1:59 pm

    This is the MENTAL STATUS of Brainwashed Pakys
    A Muslim is one who follows Islam and that is what Islam teaches..to be fair & just. May Allah swt grant Jinnah a beautiful palace in Jannah-ameen.
    WOW
    You know Jinnah a Pork Eater never read Quran never entered in mosque for prayers was He a Muslim.?? If Qatil Azam was muslim than all the Kafirs are muslims.
    The Munafiq Islam manufactured in Pakistan teaches them to accept a PORK EATER Soar Ka Ghosht Khane wala as their leader, THAT IS THE BLUNT INSULT OF ISLAM
    As Most of the people are Munafiqs they dont know or dont care about teachings of Islam.
    Jiannh married a Parsi Girl 16 years old the Father in law filed PROTECTION ORDER for the Parsi girl from Bomaby High Court against Jinnah. That is the true character of Munafiq
    Jinnah…. Now his wife his son in law his daughter his all GRAND CHILDREN are PARSIS So how you claim QATIL AZAM Jinnah as a MUSLIM?????

    • Zaman permalink
      September 9, 2012 7:53 am

      mr munafiq sha, you are realy munfiq, God destroy You, besharm ensan< tum log hindu k gulam ho< wo tumhre maa behnu ko b nhi chora< histroy padho tumhre sath kia sulok kia tha tumhre bap hidu ne<apne shakl dafa karo< zada coments mat do< tum muj meloge na tumhe so tukdy karunga kanjar k nasal

  77. waseem khawaja permalink
    October 9, 2012 6:42 am

    Ignoring all the debate,I will just say ‘ Quaid-e-Azam Zinda Bad ‘.He was neither Shia nor Sunni,just a Muslim,committed to provide a homeland & to save the ILilliterate ,poor & inocent Muslim not only from Hindu majority but also from those Mullans who were getting benifits from Indian National Congress.By the grace of Allah,we the Muslims of Pakistan are living here happily.Yes,there are some problems like law & order,electricity etc but 15-20 years back,Indaia was suffering with all such kind of problems .At that time there was no objection on Nehru and Gandhi.Living nations has to face such challengess always.Today,Muslim of India have no entity. Majority of them are compelled to change the religion or hide their Muslim names. In ‘Secular’ India,you can not get Halal meal (zabiha) ,except Muslim areas.In their (todays Hindus) point of view,Halal means manually slatterd animal,not ‘Jhatka’. Now imagine the condition of Muslims living with hindus 70-80 years back,where Muslim Pani Hindu Pani was seperate.Inspite /despite of deep friendships,Muslims were not allowed to enter the Hindus’ rasoi (kitchen).My Quaid realised the facts,left Congress,left the fantacy of Hindu Muslim Bhai Bhai and made a chioce which was ‘PAKISTAN’. If some body has objection on his dressing,eating habit etc.,mind it ,he was a normal human being not an angel.LONG LIVE QUAID-e-AZAM,LONG LIVE PAKISTAN.

  78. Eiraj Khan permalink
    November 26, 2012 1:09 pm

    Jinnah was jewish. His father was a jew.

  79. ikram ullah permalink
    January 10, 2013 12:31 am

    thanx for history of quaid e azam i like it

  80. La_Z Boy permalink
    February 11, 2013 10:43 pm

    Mohmmad Ali Jhinabhai Poonjabhai Thakkar…from Saurashtra, Gujarat
    Mohandas Kramchand Gandhi from Saurashtra, Gujarat
    Proud of being a Gujarati….

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